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Law of the Land vs. Cultural/Religious Laws
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Law of the Land vs. Cultural/Religious Laws
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Norway does not allow zada biwiya Embarassed But still Kuch logo ne 2-3 [shadiyaN] ki howi hey. Bass ye he ke 2nd wali k sath sirf nikha masjid me kia jata hey, norway k Kisi paper me Nahi ye shadi likha jati....


chalo ... issi bahaaney nya topic hi bun jayey ga ....
esi shadi jo CHUP ker ki jayey wo Ghalut hey .... even if your imaam masjid said its ok .... its NOT ok .... this is EXACTLY how secret societies start flourishing ...... in many western countries polygamy is against the law and IF EXPOSED is punishable by the Law of the Land.

now the question .... do we follow Law of the Land or Cultural/Religious laws ???
answer is simple .... and is clearly stated in Islam .... LAW OF THE LAND

Hadhrat Muhammad (SAW) made many agreements with non-muslims and NEVER broke a single agreement, the agreements were always broken/disobeyed from the OTHER parties and muslims HAD to consider the agreements void because of the other parties. now these agreements were not religious .... many a times muslims had to make changes to these agreements by making compromises, but muslims STILL respected the laws that were agreed upon as the LAW OF THE LAND.

When we live in a country as a lawful citizen, when we enter a NEW country on a VISA, when we apply for the nationality of a new country, we AGREE to follow the LAWS of the land .... and if we don't agree to these rules then we should not be living in that country. Most of the countries in this world are secular countries, there are a few exceptions ... for example let's talk about Saudi Arabia, if the Law of the Land states that women can not drive, then even christian women can not drive, jews can not drive, hindus can not drive .... because its the law of the land, and if found guilty, these women would be punished for breaking the law.

so in ISLAM .... in my understanding .... it is mendatory on muslims to abide by the laws of the land, and if the laws of the land clash with your religious beliefs, if you can not perform your religious obligations because of those laws, then leave that land and follow sunnah by moving to a safer place where you can practice your religion in OPEN, not in a secret society.

so if Royat-e-halaal committee of a country declares officially that eid will be after 29 Ramzan instead of 30 Ramzan then ALL OF THE COUNTRY has to celebrate eid. every city and every village and every house and every room in a house has no right to decide if they want to celebrate eid with Saudi Arabia or one day before official date or one day after official date.

there are 73 (if not more) sects in Islam right now, many with different rules and laws ... if all of these sects start following their own rules in PRIVATE ... then just imagine how much chaotic it would be for the government .... even for religious matters , if theres a matter NOT stated in QURAN, NOT stated in Hadith and Sunnat, then the leaders can do Ijma, and the rest of the country has to agree to that decision, just imagine if for every problem there are 73 (if not more) Ijma's ......


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Shadi aik hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed

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Shadi aik hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


Mey Izafa Kar Doon: Dreamz Sey Kisi Ney poocha K Mohabbat Shadi Sey Pehlay Achi Hoti Hai k Shadi K Baad Question Dreamz Ney Jawaab Diya:"Shadi sey Pehlay Ho Ya Shadi K Baad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Bas Bivi Ko Patah Mat Chalnay dehna!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes

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Islam orders us & emphasise on that we should always be fair in our Overall dealings (Al Deen Ul Muhamala).Also that we should always respect our contracts,treaties & Agreements.Whereever we lives we have to obey their Rules,Regulations & Laws.The countries with whom we have contract means today the Visa,Resident Permit,Nationality etc.Only what is contradicting with the Islam eg.If some one is stoping you from praying,fasting etc.Which is not the case any where.So we have to understand the Islam according to ist true Spirit.

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Shadi aik hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


Mey Izafa Kar Doon: Dreamz Sey Kisi Ney poocha K Mohabbat Shadi Sey Pehlay Achi Hoti Hai k Shadi K Baad Question Dreamz Ney Jawaab Diya:"Shadi sey Pehlay Ho Ya Shadi K Baad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Bas Bivi Ko Patah Mat Chalnay dehna!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes


Lolz

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Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing

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Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing


Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing



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I K QAZI wrote:
Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing


Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Huuby Ko abh bhi Faida Need ????????? ----------------------
Billo hay na un kay pass ---------------------------------------
Great Girl she is-------- what else he want----------------------------


Opps Butter ziada Hogaye na ??????????? Koi nahi Sach hee bolaye main ---------
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MaoBilli wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing



It is better to Fail trying then Never to try -------------------
It is so much fun to make the same mistake -------and fail again -----------
Try again and Fail ------------------------U never Know when U Vil Succeed-------but once on top of mountain
U Vil See the beauty from top ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


sarey philosophers ki rooh ooper party ker rahey hooN gey .... is Khushi maiN key there's ONE man alive who STILL reads us ....

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I K QAZI wrote:
MaoBilli wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing


Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Huuby Ko abh bhi Faida Need ????????? ----------------------
Billo hay na un kay pass ---------------------------------------
Great Girl she is-------- what else he want----------------------------


Opps Butter ziada Hogaye na ??????????? Koi nahi Sach hee bolaye main ---------


awwwwwwwwwwwwww ............................
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ............. SUPER CUTE .............

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Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Ab kia Faida Laughing

Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Qazi bro ab tak deep deep batein karte ho ?

hela laram pa khair ba yay.

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Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Ab kia Faida Laughing


Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Dont know ke kiske Faida howa he or kiska nuksan

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nuQsaan.

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yeh bhi Qainchi waala hey Embarassed Embarassed

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nuQsaan.

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yeh bhi Qainchi waala hey Embarassed Embarassed


Nuskan keh dia Karru gi isse acha,,,, zada Maza ata hey

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nuQsaan.

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yeh bhi Qainchi waala hey Embarassed Embarassed


Nuskan keh dia Karru gi isse acha,,,, zada Maza ata hey


Laughing Laughing sounds really cute ............

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Shadi aik se zada hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


INSHALLAH , Allah jee kerne walla hey , Aur main na umeed zara bee nahi hoon , Sooner or later.. InshAllah

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MaheTamam wrote:
Summary for DreamzzZ

Shadi aik hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


Mey Izafa Kar Doon: Dreamz Sey Kisi Ney poocha K Mohabbat Shadi Sey Pehlay Achi Hoti Hai k Shadi K Baad Question Dreamz Ney Jawaab Diya:"Shadi sey Pehlay Ho Ya Shadi K Baad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Bas Bivi Ko Patah Mat Chalnay dehna!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes


Embarassed Laughing Laughing Laughing Embarassed
Qazi bahi @ Awo gore , naw gore Embarassed Laughing

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"Ƙнʋ∂ βιɢнαяιι Ħωɛɛ Ƭαզ∂ɛɛя Ƙαα Ƨнικωα Иα Ƙɛяσ"


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MaheTamam wrote:
Summary for DreamzzZ

Shadi aik se zada hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


INSHALLAH , Allah jee kerne walla hey , Aur main na umeed zara bee nahi hoon , Sooner or later.. InshAllah


tamaam membraan-e-forum sey guzaarish

mere quotes ko edit kerna ho to talaffuz ka Khiyaal rakha karaiN ..........

maiN Khwab maiN bhi "ziyada" ko "zada" na likhooN kabhi .......... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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DreamoOo wrote:
MaheTamam wrote:
Summary for DreamzzZ

Shadi aik se zada hi kerna .... Embarassed Embarassed


INSHALLAH , Allah jee kerne walla hey , Aur main na umeed zara bee nahi hoon , Sooner or later.. InshAllah


tamaam membraan-e-forum sey guzaarish

mere quotes ko edit kerna ho to talaffuz ka Khiyaal rakha karaiN ..........

maiN Khwab maiN bhi "ziyada" ko "zada" na likhooN kabhi .......... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


Meeri taang mat keencha kero , aisa na kisi din hath main ayee hoo Embarassed Laughing

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Bin-Momin wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
MaoBilli wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Ab kia Faida Laughing

Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Qazi bro ab tak deep deep batein karte ho ?

hela laram pa khair ba yay.


Daira Manana!!!Har Sa Teek di!! Tha Waya sanga Ye???

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I K QAZI wrote:
Bin-Momin wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
MaoBilli wrote:
I K QAZI wrote:
Aisey Hi Hotay Hain Ye Mard Loag Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Khayal Rakhna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Ab kia Faida Laughing

Faida Bhi Aap K Hubby Ko Hi hoga!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Qazi bro ab tak deep deep batein karte ho ?

hela laram pa khair ba yay.


Daira Manana!!!Har Sa Teek di!! Tha Waya sanga Ye???


Kha pake khushal dey , aware kana Qazi wrrora , da hum agha sarey dey chy wena hum na woo kire @ Rabanday kaoo yeh na? Embarassed Laughing

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Agar ap log samajhte ho ke mujhe mahe, Catcher ya sagi ko pastor Nahi ati tto ap ghalt Samajh rahe ho.


Bilkul sahi kaha bills ney Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
hum sarooN ko wo cheez aati hey ..... wo jo Billo ney kaha hey wohi ......... whatever it is ........... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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